Topic: No Fishing (Read 8184 times)

donahue_85 · « **on:** May 19, 2009, 11:57:09 AM »

I won't be doing any fishing for a while.

My engine blew up this past weekend. The wife & I were out camping on the river & we were going along & the motor started to run funny, like it was missing on a cylinder?! So when we got back to camp, I took the hood of the motor & all looked good to me. I tilted her up & left her sit. I came back to look again about 30 minuts later & there was a milky substance coming out of the front of the engine leaking onto my boat. $:-\$ I'm pretty sure it blew a head gasket. The oil had a good amount of water in it. It still starts & runs, but rough. I don't want to run it anymore than necessary so it doesn't hurt it any worse. I have it posted on Craigslist for a parts or rebuild engine right now for $500. I'm hopeing to sell it to buy a new (to me) used motor. I know how to fix the problem, I just don't really think it is worth the time & money I will have to invest into it. I guess I will be stuck peir fishing for a while.

Oh well, atleast I can still fish somehow!!

If anyone has a decent outboard motor for sale (anywhere from a 70-90hp) let me know.

Dave · « **Reply #1 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:13:28 PM »

That too bad about the motor.

If is only a head gasket why not fix it?

You can pick up a gasket I would think for under $50.00 and with a few hours labor your back on the water.
If you want to sell it, you will get more for it running.

Just my $.02

julieg2 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2009, 01:45:01 PM »

How unfortunate.

Is it expensive to repair? What caused it, is the motor old?

You need to find somebody with a big boat to take you fishing now.

Gone FishN · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2009, 04:10:38 PM »

Extremely unfortunate for you.

Sorry to hear about your troubles, especially when the fishing is heating up.

What make, model and year is it?

What are you asking for it the way it is?

Sorry Man!

BobD · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2009, 08:22:10 PM »

I wouldn't give up so quickly. If it's only a head gasket, fix it, stay on the water and look for a used motor. You may be able to trade it in on a newer one from a dealer/shop. Unless you are getting some kind of warranty with a used motor, you could find yourself in the same boat, so to speak. Just my .02

Angler · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2009, 06:38:47 PM »

What Bob Said.

Gaskets are cheap if that's all you need.

Auggie2612 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2009, 06:46:42 PM »

What motor do you have??

donahue_85 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:22:44 PM »

Well, I just sold it about an hour ago. I looked at the repair manual & it was way too much work for me! I figured I could get another motor for the time I would have invested in this one. Anyways, it's gone. I have to play the waiting game now to come across a good deal somewhere.

BobD · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2009, 06:12:34 AM »

What size/make are you looking for? Put the word out and maybe someone has something. Good luck in your search.

donahue_85 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2009, 10:54:14 PM »

I am sorry to everyone as I haven't been very active on here for a while due to my engine problems.

Anyways, I just picked up an '80's model 70hp Johnson for $300. It looks like crap, but everything seems to be okay as far as compression & whatnot. Only problem is.........no spark on any of the 3 cylinders! I thought it could be the power pack, but it looks like it was just replaced not too long ago as it looks brand new. I would be greatful to any suggestions you all could throw my way!!! I know that it sat for a while without being ran. The fuel smelled pretty old. Please HELP! I bought it because I figured it wouldn't be too bad to fix (for $300), but I can't figure this one out.

BobD · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2009, 06:16:13 AM »

Are you trying to run it on a stand or did you put it on the boat? Is it the fuel in the carbs that smells bad or are you using a remote tank? Do you have a kill switch and is it wired to the new engine? How are you testing spark, an inline testor or

I would have thought power pack also and you may need to test it. I'd start by checking all the wiring for clean connections, especially the grounds. Did you replace the plugs? Get some fresh fuel into that motor. Let us know how you are proceding? It'll probably be something simple.

Dave · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2009, 07:12:09 AM »

That motor has a stator and a rectifier along with the power pack.
Like Bob said, check all of the wiring, 12v and gnd.
Make sure you have good wiring first.

Do you have an ignition or are you hot wiring it?
Make sure either is correct.

With all 3 cylinders not firing sounds like it is something other than the power pack.

If you have an Ohm meter remove the wires from the power pack, stator and rectifier and check for shorts, (0 ohms)
between the terminals.

Keep us updated.

donahue_85 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:04:32 PM »

I hope you are right Bob! I want it to be something simple!! I have it on the back of my boat now, but it is not bolted down or anything yet. The fuel that the guy was using was new, but I could tell that whoever ran it last didn't run all th fuel out of it. I'm sure that it is ok though, I mean it is still letting fuel flow through the engine alright & everything. The engine came with the controls which are hooked up to it right now, that is what I've been using to turn it over. Only problem there is, I can't turn the key & check the spark at the same time. I haven't replaced the plugs yet, but it is already on my list of things to do.

As for the power pack deal. It looks BRAND SPANKING NEW! I don't see how it would just stop working from sitting?!

Yes it does have a rectifier & stator. The rectifier looks old, but the stator was replaced in '04. It has a date writen on the new wiring coming out from under the flywheel. So I know that should be decent. But I heard that the stator is pretty much like an alternator on a car & charges the battery, so I don't know if that would have anything to do with it not sparking?

I do have an Ohm meter, but unfortunatly I haven't had much experience with it, so figureing out how many Ohm's is not something I'm too smart about. But I will go now & check all the wiring for shorts & bad grounds. I hope that is all it is. I did notice that some of the wiring was a little corroded looking.

Does this thing have a brain on it? Could that be the issue? I had an old Merc that did the same thing & I gave it away. The guy I gave it to said it was the brain.

BobD · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:06:17 PM »

If the controls have a kill switch, I'd start there. If you can find an in-line spark testor, at Auto Zone or Discount, you can plug it in between the plug wire and the plug. Then when you crank, you can see if it sparks. As far as an Ohm meter, the Ohm setting is used as a continuity testor. If you turn it to the lowest setting, the meter should read 1. This means the circuit is open. If you touch the leads together you will get a reading of, maybe .01, or something like that. This means the cicuit is closed or cointinuous. If you touch the leads to both ends of a wire and you get a 1 reading, it means the wire has a break in it. You can check for fuses to be good as well as breaks in a circuit. If you had a book on the motor, you will see tests for different circuits. Keep us informed.

julieg2 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2009, 08:31:10 PM »

Well, I know nothing about fixing boat stuff

but I do hope you can get it fix soon and go fishing again.

donahue_85 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2009, 01:05:09 AM »

I'm going to the local library to check out the repair manual for this engine. I tried everything I could think of today, I checked & cleaned all the ground connections, ran new fuel through it just to get rid of the old stuff that was in there & I called my uncle to see if he could be of any help. All I keep hearing is that one of these three things is most likely bad & is whats causeing the issue. The stator, the power pack or the rectifier. It could be a combination of them. I looked at new parts online today, talk about money spent! Does anyone know of a place I can get used outboard motor parts for cheap?

I do greatly appreciate all the help & info you guys have been giving me! I've tried to use as much of it as I could in my search for the cause to my problem. I really hope the repair manual will shed some light to the issue. Thanks again guys! Keep the good information flowing!!! Every little bit helps!

BobD · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:19:20 AM »

A repair maual will give you the tests for electronic parts. You'll need a ohm or muti-meter. Used parts are going to be hard to come by and you won't be able to return anything new that doesn't work. If you knew someone with the same engine, you could try switching parts. Right now, your best bet is going to be finding the tests and replacing what's bad. Good luck and let us know.

Dave · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2009, 06:44:45 AM »

A few options:
Take it to a dealer and have them find the problem for you and replace the parts yourself.

Find a supplier online or local that will let you purchase the parts and then return what you don’t need or use.

Auggie2612 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2009, 08:07:34 PM »

Myself and a local guy are going to get this problem straight tomorrow.. I hope.. Give us a call tomorrow when your available.. you got the number..

Dave · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:20:18 PM »

So, What is the latest on your motor?

Did you get it running?

Auggie2612 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:31:19 AM »

Dropped it off with us yesterday.. Looked for the easy problem, but nothing yet..

.. Getting ready to go out the door to get her going..

Dave · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2009, 10:31:05 AM »

Good Luck, keep us updated..

julieg2 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:40:01 PM »

That's great, sounds like you are getting some help.

Hope to see ya on the water

donahue_85 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:55:10 PM »

Yeah, this is turning out to be more than it is worth! I can't think of another thing to try?!

We have checked it all! Everything seems to be in good working order. The only thing that is left to try, is the harness. I hope we can figure something out, if not, I selling this one too!!!!

BobD · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2009, 09:35:02 PM »

Sorry this is turning into a PIA. If all the components check out, you are down to the ignition switch and the harness. You may have a broken wire in there. Good luck and keep us posted.

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